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Corel 11

Any one else tried Corel 11 photo paint ?

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Hi Paul,

Nice site you have here! Congrats!

Nope, I haven't used Corel Photo Paint since version 8 and never did like it much, though I know some folks do and I might like version 11 better (??). I found it cumbersome and non-intuitive.

I use Corel Painter and have for years, Painter 4, 5, 6, 7, and now Painter 8. Occasionally, I use Photoshop 5.5 but not often since I can do 99% of what I want.. and more.. in Painter. It's great for turning photos into paintings, for instance, with literally hundreds of brushes already installed and on the CD's, and endless numbers the user can create to do just what they want.

If I had a decent digital camera, I'd try to put together some samples for you. Maybe I can do that one of these days, hopefully.

Speaking of which, is this site strictly digital camera related, or do other cameras and their "productions" qualify?

Sorry if I'm getting too far off topic in this thread. I hope it's not bothering anyone. If so, please accept my apologies, let me know, and I'll edit my message accordingly. Still figuring out where things should be posted.

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Jin,
Welcome to the fast growing Byte Photo community.

Just recently I got Painter 8, but I havn't had the time yet to look around it. And by sheer coincidence I came across your site just the other day. Seems a great, and very useful, site.
It will be of great help when I start getting my hands dirty with Painter

To answer your question about, "is this site strictly digital camera related, or do other cameras and their "productions" qualify". I've been asked several times this and the answer is, yes, why not !
I think I'll set up a forum subject especially for "other productions". However, it would be preferable to stay within the digital imagery boundaries.
What do you think ? I'm open to suggestions.


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If you find the user interface difficult to understand, don't hesitate and let me know.

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Jin,
Welcome to the fast growing Byte Photo community.



Thanks, RVB.

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Just recently I got Painter 8, but I havn't had the time yet to look around it. And by sheer coincidence I came across your site just the other day. Seems a great, and very useful, site.
It will be of great help when I start getting my hands dirty with Painter



Which site did you find? I have two.

One's PixelAlley. That's my older site, launched in October '99 where I have loads of free tutorials for Painter 5, 5.5, 6, and 7, Painter Developer John Derry's Visual Guides for Painter 7 Water Colors, Liquid Ink, and Keystroke Commands, other tips and info on Painter 7, and two sections with custom brush variants created by other Painter artists and me, available for download. A lot of this is useable in Painter 8 but you'd need to learn the most basic things about Painter 8 before you'd understand how to use some of the tutorials.

The newer site, launched in August, 2002 is PixelAlley's sister site (the fast growing) TutorAlley Forums where we have open forums for all members and private forums where I teach Painter classes. It's a site focused on Painter though we do talk about whatever it takes to learn and fully enjoy Painter, including other software used for the same piece (Photoshop, Illustrator, Corel Draw, Bryce, Poser, etc.), printers, paper, cameras and photography, both digital and traditional art of many kinds, and lots more. Painter is a Natural Media® software, meaning it simulates traditional drawing and painting tools and many of our artists use both traditional and digital media to complete a single piece as well as more than one software application for a single piece (sometimes several).

On the subject of coincidences, it has been a series of coincidences as your partner joined TutorAlley Forums the other day, on the very day one of our members was telling us about a place that offers free gallery space (BytePhoto). I was immediately concerned and wanted to make sure that our members at TutorAlley not display images hosted on any site that doesn't allow remote linking. Most free gallery sites don't allow remote linking, as it can be a bandwidth problem (costly).

I'm determined that TutorAlley Forums will be a place that respects other site's terms of service, copyrights, etc. and I wanted to be absolutely sure you knew, and agreed to let our members do this. It is a constant problem for people who don't have websites of their own, so they're always looking for, and letting each other know about, sites that offer free space.

Unfortunately, some people in the online art community even share ways to get around the remote linking blocks which is, of course, unfair to the site owner where the images are hosted. When people agree to the terms of service in order to use the site for free (or not for free) gallery space, they oughta abide by them! That's what I think, at least.


Since our member let me know she'd checked with you, and I'd corresponded with your partner briefly and planned to continue the discussion when he returns after the weekend, I decided to stop by your site and take a look.

I'm very impressed with the layout and look of your site. It's clean, easy to navigate, and looks like you have things started very well.

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To answer your question about, "is this site strictly digital camera related, or do other cameras and their "productions" qualify". I've been asked several times this and the answer is, yes, why not !
I think I'll set up a forum subject especially for "other productions". However, it would be preferable to stay within the digital imagery boundaries.
What do you think ? I'm open to suggestions.



I think you need to decide what your range of focus will be and be careful not to let it get out of control unless, of course, you don't want to limit things. If you want to include all kinds of cameras/photography, fine. If you want to focus on digital, then that's another story.

I have the same dilemma at TutorAlley as we do talk about other software than just Painter and we need to, since people use other software with Painter. Still, since TutorAlley Forums is a Painter learning and teaching site, I have to pull in the reins when our members begin to teach techniques for Photoshop when the same things can be done in Painter.

Personally, I'd enjoy being able to use photos taken with my old non-digital cameras since the only digital camera I own doesn't give me enough pixels to do anything worthwhile. Since you have a Retouching forum, it would seem logical in a way to allow retouching of old photos as well as digital photos. Those would not have been taken with a digital camera, of course. Other possibilites include combining old and new photos, done with old non-digital and new digital cameras. Really, the possibilities are endless, aren't they!

You'll have to forgive me. Painter does this to people. It opens up our creative thinking to include just about anything you can dream up.

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Quote:
"Still figuring out where things should be posted."
If you find the user interface difficult to understand, don't hesitate and let me know.



Not at all! Quite the contrary. As I mentioned above, it seems very well organized and is easy to navigate. I'm just new here and still reading the threads, poking around and learning what's where.

Thanks for the nice welcome. I hope you'll join us at TutorAlley Forums and let us help you get used to Painter. It's loads of fun and you'll find a thousand wonderful ways to use it with your photos.

Long response, wasn't this? Just call me "gabby".

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Hi Jin,

Thank you for dropping in….. I look forward to a mutually beneficial relationship between your forums and ours ……also I appreciate your concern for our bandwidth and expenses …..We have at this time no plan to limit hot linking photos from our site to others........

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